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August 19, 2006


Mike Morrell

Thanks for this thoughtful review, Kester. I'll be chewing on it for awhile in light of our talks on "dirt" at Soliton. It was fantastic to meet you, by the way.

martin hill

Thoughtful review kester. Made me interested to read it. Thought that your comments on close to 'universalism with hell attached' for those who opt out show honest appreciation of orthodoxy. Will like to see their appreciation of gift as I liked yours on gift and dirt in complex christ.


Agreed. Like the "opt in" and "opt out" views of grace. I'll be using that in other parts...

My mates said GreenBelt was good. So I assume it was ;) I was in the Isle of Wight trekking to ancient shrines with my kids.

Steve Lancaster

Re: prodigals. It's worth wondering who Jesus, as the oldest son in Joseph and Mary's family, identified most with in his parable. I've not read the book, but I expect it touches on this.

Also (from personal experience) I'm a little less convinced than you that:

"He is fighting those bindings, and wrestling to be free of them. But we never will be. We are bound and obligated to live inside some plausibility structure: atheistic, Islamic, hedonistic, universalist, Christian. And bound by culture and place within them."

Yes, it seems to me true that in every attempt to express ourselves (to others and inwardly) we may have only the tools of evolution (physical and cultural) with which to do so. But I wonder how far theologies of silence and negation (such as those explored by Pete Rollins in his new book)can be seen as ways of cutting us out from the cultural binds we are in, leaving us alone with Love, only after which we choose to move back into culture as a form of missional engagement. What do you think? Possible?

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